Daddy, Papa and Me

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“A black man can’t be president”

That’s what my 5-year-old daughter said to me this weekend.

It hurt the the core of my heart. I and Guy work hard to raise our daughter with a sense of pride in her heritage, a love for herself and understanding of what it means to be “black” in this country and still remain hopeful.

We thought we were succeeding.


I was perusing DK on Saturday and she walked in to ask me something and saw a picture of Bush. A conversation ensued.

“That’s the president?”

“Yes sweetie”

“You don’t like him do you?”

“No”

“Why not?”

I then spend a short amount of time trying hard to explain to her why not without sounding too disrespectful of the presidency and with things she would understand.

“Is he still president?”

“Yes, but remember the pictures we saw, we are choosing a new president”

She remembers and says she wants the lady to be president. She wants her because she says she likes the way she dresses (sadly, I have a fear that a lot of people vote like this 5-year-old would… someone ‘looks nice’ or ‘you could have a beer with).

“Yes, she’d be a good president”

“You want that man on our refrigerator to be president?” (that’d be Obama)

“Yes, but I like the woman, her name is Hilary Clinton, too”

“He can’t be president”

“Why not?”

“Because people like me can’t be president”

Here my heart sank and my smile disappeared. I was afraid to ask the the next question: “What do you mean?”

“People with skin like me can’t be president”

I wanted to throw up. Where did she get this? I asked her why she thought this and how she came to that conclusion, but like any 5-year-old, she lost interest in the conversation. SHe’ll bring it up again at another time, she always does.

But where in the ^%$ did she get this idea?

Definitely not in our house, where anything is possible.

Not from her kindergarden teachers. They haven’t discussed presidents. I don’t think our daughter has ever seen a list of presidents, much less a list with pictures.

It’s not that she’s not seen men (and women) who are black as leaders. The new head of her school is African American, the former mayor here was African American (and she’s met him)…

Someone, somewhere in our community of multiple races and very liberal San Francisco, said something to the effect that a black man can not become president.

Is that still the thinking in this nation? Are we stuck in the pre-60’s forever believing that a person of color can not and will not, perhaps should not, rise to the top of our nation? Are we going to create a self-fulfilling prophecy by our lack of belief?

Perhaps I am overanalyzing this. I am. It’s our daughter, of course I’m overanalyzing this. But when you can live in a very liberal community of a racial makeup with no majority race or ethnicity and have men and women of color in leadership roles.

And still your daughter can pick up somehow that there is a ceiling that black people can not rise above,

Then this virus of racism is pernicious and much stronger than this optimistic and hopeful father had ever believed.

I don’t want Obama to win because he’s black any more than I want him to lose because of it. But if he doesn’t, I hope another man or woman of color does become president sometime in my daughter’s lifetime because as trivial as this would seem in the bigger picture of things, I hope to be able point out to my daughter that yes, someone with skin like hers can be president.

And the hopeful aspect of this election season, at least when it comes to our daughter, is that come just about this time next year I truly believe that either a woman or a black man will likely be president of the United States of America. Someone like my daughter might just be president one way or the other.

And that alone is one of the most amazing things I’ve been every able to say about a presidential campaign in the 4 decades of my life.

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Comments

  1. Yondalla posted the following on January 2, 2008 at 10:54 am.

    I am so sorry.

    I am trying to remember a book I read to my kids. It was about a girl who wanted to play the part of Peter Pan. A classmate told her that she couldn’t be because she was black. As I recall she talked to her grandmother or someone about it, and I believed she ended up playing the part. I don’t remember the title, but it could be a way to open up the conversation again. I’ll ask my kids.

    heck…maybe Roldand took it to his clssroom.

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  2. Trey posted the following on January 2, 2008 at 10:58 am.

    Yes, Amazing Grace.

    I think I’ll read that book tonight :D

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  3. Silph posted the following on January 2, 2008 at 11:36 am.

    My god… .
    And not only did she say that a black person can’t be president, but there is no doubt that she fully understands that this belief is related to her, personally: she said “PEOPLE LIKE ME” can’t be president.

    surprising given where you live.

    if ever you find out what might’ve been the source of this belief of your daughter, please do post about it.. .

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  4. Raquita posted the following on January 2, 2008 at 11:47 am.

    While not the president we just had this sort of thing go down about Santa – as a collector of ethnic santas my three year old told me those were mommys santas her santa was white.
    *sigh* shaking head… if you figure out how to deal with this let me know…
    We’ve been reading all the books and having all the equality talks.. again – let us know what you come up with…

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  5. deb posted the following on January 2, 2008 at 2:54 pm.

    In an uncharacteristic bout of optimism….
    Perhaps some time in the future, this story will be a wonderful sign of how much things have changed when you toast the adult Emma as she reaches some wonderful milestone…if not the presidency (!!), then whatever her heart desires. What a hard day for you.

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  6. landismom posted the following on January 2, 2008 at 6:23 pm.

    Wow. That must have been really difficult for you. I think you handled it well (ie–not pushing a discussion, but not just letting it go by, either). I’m sure, as you say, it will come up again.

    But how awful, to know that she is listening to that external voice already.

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  7. allie posted the following on January 4, 2008 at 9:44 am.

    Just a different point of view…

    she may not have needed to get the idea from anywhere – it may just be from her own frame of the world. Example: My daughter’s doctor is female. My doctor is female. My daughter’s specialist is female. Coming out of one appointment, she turned to me and said, “Mommy, why can’t boys be doctors too?”

    It’s not that they can’t, she just assumed so since she hasn’t seen any.

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  8. Kerry posted the following on January 5, 2008 at 8:04 am.

    I was going to say what Allie did. It’s still heartbreaking that it was said, but maybe not as sinister as it first sounded.

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  9. Trey posted the following on January 5, 2008 at 8:37 am.

    I agree kerry and allie, it could be that. I know children at this age (and some adults) can make large generalizations from single experiences.

    So it could be that. She didn’t make the connection though that there were female presidents either (she wants Hilary Clinton as president), but who knows what kids see and don’t see :) .

    It could definitely be as something as simple as that.

    Or even she overheard a conversation between two people discussing whether the country is ready to vote for a black man and extroplated that to mean they ‘can’t’ be president.

    I hope she talks to me more :)

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  10. Evie posted the following on January 7, 2008 at 1:05 pm.

    Commented on Friday and no post. What happened?

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  11. Trey posted the following on January 7, 2008 at 1:55 pm.

    Evie,

    I checked my junk comments (sometimes things go there that shouldn’t) and couldn’t find it there.

    I don’t moderate comments, I just let them post if they pass the spam filter. Not sure why yours didn’t go through :( .

    Post again!

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  12. Silph posted the following on January 9, 2008 at 6:01 pm.

    allie, i hadn’t thought about that.
    isn’t it neat when others point out possibilities that we hadn’t thought about?

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  13. ashland posted the following on February 15, 2008 at 7:06 pm.

    I think that she might have heard some1 say it… children are known for repeating what they hear….

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  14. Daddy, Papa and Me posted the following on February 19, 2008 at 10:53 am.

    A “Personal Primary”

    This primary season has had a much more personal impact on our family than have any before. Impacts that intersect race, gender and sexual orientation. As a family of two fathers raising an African American daughter and with the…

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  15. Lauren posted the following on July 23, 2008 at 2:42 pm.

    Did you ever find out what spurred her comment?

    I just found this blog last week and have been reading all the past entries. Thank you so much for letting us be a part of your family. I’ve always been a little afraid of small children, in part because I’ve had so little experience with them. But your wonderful descriptions of the ups and downs of parenting, and especially of what an amazing daughter you have, make think I may want to try parenting one of these days.

    I’ve also been fascinating by interracial adoptions ever since I started studying African American history. I know in the 70s black social workers called it a cultural genocide–I really appreciate you detailing the daily interactions that you have with your daughter to show that interracial adoption can be a success.

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